Sunday, 30 March 2014

The L Word and Stereotypes - Why Don't Lesbians Wear Bras?



So Rose has finally convinced me to start watching The L Word after years of protesting, mainly due to the fact that I saw the series one cover photo with their hideously bad early noughties outfits with their gelled hair and their white vest tops with jeans and strappy stilettos (?) and just thought NOPE NOT DOING THIS.

But she talked me into watching it, mainly because she hinted heavily that the numerous sex scenes made her horny and I would be rewarded for doing so. So after being pissed off that I was forced into watching a series I didn't really want to watch, I was then pissed that I was hooked, and pissed that everyone's reaction when I told them I had started to watch it was ''You've ONLY just started to watch it?" And then continuing to question me on my whole sexuality and what kind of a mock person I must be to be in a committed lesbian relationship without first having established any rules or boundaries, that must be inherently learned and passed down through the lesbian bible that is The L Word.

I became addicted to the series so much so that when Rose left for her trip to Austria with her sister for 5 days I continued to watch it without her and when my straight (but barely) friend Anna came round I asked if she minded me watching it whilst I tidied up after a heavy sesh  the night before. She said no so we settled down to watch it whilst I dragged my sorry ass around the living room attempting to clear up the shite that always appears when my group of sluts I MEAN FRIENDS FRIENDS come round mine.

And do you know what the FIRST thing Anna said to me after watching an entire episode with full sex scenes and everything? She turned to me and she said; "Rosie, why aren't any of them wearing bras? Why is it such a stereotype that lesbians don't wear bras?"
And you know I thought about it and I didn't really have an answer for her. I'd already noticed Shane's lack of bra throughout the series, I suppose because she has the most sex scenes. I thought it looked quite free and relaxing for her to just pull off her T shirt and be so naked, and to just finish sex and be able to just button up a shirt without messing around with a bra. I  then also noticed that Dana never wore a bra, and neither did Alice which really surprised me because she has some HUGE kahoonas if you know what I'm saying. Jenny's transformation to being more 'lesbian' involved her cutting all her hair off and I'd seen her with and without a bra.

I didn't get it.

The thing is, if almost all of the characters aren't wearing a bra, the directors must have told them not to. I mean, they're dressed as their CHARACTERS right, not as themselves. If all the characters are in scenes in which they constantly reveal they aren't wearing a bra, it must have been a conscious decision made by the creators to do this. But I can't for the life of me figure out why. I actually did a bit of lazy research on this (which involved me googling ''Do lesbians wear bras?'' and the first thread that came up was regarding the L Word, a person asking the exact same question as me. Lots of lesbians replied, and said that they DON'T wear bras. One person said she wore bras only to hide her nipples from people. One person said they wore bras but only because they have huge jubblies. One person made a highly valid point that braless lesbians probably drew more people in to watching the series and it was probably a selling point. I still can't decide.

I think what it all boils down to is that lesbians are stereotypically seen as 'man haters'. So called 'man haters' are linked with Feminism, and Feminism is linked with bra burning from decades ago. But I don't believe this has got anything to do with the L Word characters not wearing bras. All I know is that I watch these ladies living their lives and working, dating, chilling in their houses and I just think that they look so FREE. Despite the series being set in the early 2000's, a far more homophobic and oppressing time, these ladies just seem to, do what they want. They dress exactly how they want (Shane, most noticeably) act how they want, challenge anyone who questions them (Jenny) and god, I love them for it.

So when my friend pointed out about them not wearing bras it just made ME want to fuck off all responsibility and not wear a bra. Although this isn't an option for Anna (how many times can I slip it into this blog that she has gigantic boobies?) but TOTALLY a realistic option for me now I've lost some more weight and have pert little boo-boos. I think I'm going to experiment; a week with no bra and let you know how I feel. Ultimately I do think that no bras represents throwing off societies rules and living exactly as you want to. And I think that's a great message. Down with bras!
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  1. Wow you're right they didn't wear bras... I think no bras was a subliminal message .. Now I need to re-watch...

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  2. Someone will be so happy if you're not wearing bra ;))

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  3. Bette and Tina always had bras on. I kind of think it dealt with the one's who had real responsible jobs, because the professional one's wore bras.

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  4. I'm a lesbian and I don't wear a bra. I never thought about one of these facts being dependant of the other, though! I have small boobs and always adored the feeling of taking my bra off as soon as I came home. and on a summer day last year I was so annoyed that I just decided not to wear one for the day. and from that day on I did never wear one again (once you know what it feels like without, you don't wanna go back, trust me). except for sports bras when working out, and tube tops under almost see-through shirts. I don't know a single person who goes bra-less like me, and sometimes I feel weird when I think about the fact that others might be thinking about my lack of bra. but hey, it feels fucking comfy not wearing one, and I don't see a single valid reason for my small boobs being pressed into a hot, tight cage-y thing. so I think it would be absolutely cool if you would give it a try, considering how many people watch your videos. of course I sometimes catch myself thinking that under some shirts, my boobs would look more beautiful if they were put in shape by a bra, but then I make myself see that not wearing a bra is also a NO to pre-defined, uberly round boob shapes that ignore the existence of nipples and a YES to natural, diverse, individual boobies! ;D xx

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  5. I haven't really thought about it. But maybe it's because lesbians tend to be more confortable in "not caring" for what people will think, so they just don't wear ir if they don't want to.
    It'll be nice reading you here. Nice text. xx

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  6. I tried this last week in a 2 day concert and It was awful!!!!! I jumped so many times that now I have bruises all over my boobs..so soooo sad. Saludos desde México

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  7. I absolutely LOVE my bra! I have big boobies, and without a bra it feels so uncomfortable, my boobs hurt, my back hurts. I love to drath the woman who invented bras!

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    1. ACTUALLY, love, the first person to invent a bra was a MAN and it was made out of METAL. Few people actually know this, but it's completely true.
      That being said, my breasts are quite big for my body type and thus I have to wear a bra to keep them up. :/

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  8. Take a closer look at lots of lesbian dramas, and they have characters who also forego their bras, which is fine if you have breasts no larger than two fried eggs (and most of these characters do seem to have tiny beestings and are a tad scrawny), and so they can get away with no bras. Most of us in the real world have jobs and I'd probably scare the shit out of my colleagues if I didn't have something holding my assets in. Whilst I loved the L Word, it was stacked full of caricatures and stereotypes and the writing sometimes went off at a tangent. Perhaps they were just riding the wave of a stereotypical lesbian 'couture' of the time, which probably meant braless babes were the norm.

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  9. Bras are great for support and shit but I personally dislike them. Sure my tits are gonna sag sure they go crazy all over the place when I walk and all that good stuff but I'm comfortable. I don't see males walking around with jojockstraps, well I asume. It's not ladylike? Why? Because we don't want to receive negative attention? Well I don't care. People can look as long as they don't touch, Rosie you can touch, but seriously it's not a big deal. I`m a llesbian, I don't hate men.. I just think females are superior in every way.. fuck equality. If we shoot for equality we're gonna get a pat on the head and we're gonna get to sit in the childrens table. Way off topic but I felt like throwing that in there, I am not speaking for anybody else, that is just my personal opinion.

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    1. I am aware I misspelled a few words, it bothers me but I am lazy to correct them.

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  10. I believe in wearing gorgeous lingerie every day, it is a great form of self expression. I enthusiastically try to convert everyone around me into wearing good lingerie. I buy new pretty panties (vegan and ethically-produced brands, no animal has to suffer and die for the sake of lingerie) on a regular basis but I have a love/hate relationship with my bras. The only time I'll ever wear one is when I know they'll be taken off soon but for everyday wear, braless feels better to me. It's time to stop shaming women for not wearing a bra. I don't know if it's a lesbian thing (I'm a lesbian) or just a non-conformist thing because I don't tolerate much. I'm a pain-avoider by nature. Not a silent sufferer at all.

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  11. "They dress exactly how they want (Shane, most noticeably) act how they want" - Why Shane "most noticeably"? The other characters dress and act what they want as well. Like Alice, (god I love Alice) she dresses and acts what she likes to and so are other characters.

    I'm a lesbian and I happen to love bras and wearing them while I know a couple of straight friends who hate wearing bras. Stereotypes of lesbians are mostly linked to unattractiveness and grossness don't you think? I hate those stereotypes. That's why some mothers are freaked out when they first learned that their daughter is a lesbian because they believed those stereotypes before.

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  12. First blog back... The L word... and Boobs! Curious to know how it going bra-les works out being that my ridiculously large boobs will never be able to handle such a task. Hell... If I'm doing anything more than walking I have to practically strap these puppies to my body so I don't hurt myself. Ugh.

    When it comes to the L-word and the unrestrained bosoms, I did notice but didn't really care much as to why. I just went with it ... because hawt! Lol!

    ~April

    And P.S. Just because I want tell ya... Lara is my fav character. Absolutely love her!

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  13. Considering myself a girl-kisser (yeah... sort of shane-esque body type, feeling rather genderless/neutrois since a couple of years and just being a penguin in my mind... I don't feel comfortable categorising people/myself too much) I also noticed Shane not wearing bras and blamed it on her tiny breasts (I can relate) and her consistent androgynous style (indeed noticeable and even influencial).
    Although, I didn't notice the eternal sunshine of a braless mind throughout the series, but I'm going to re-evaluate this further on.


    Trying not to beg your pardon for my "foreign english" but doing it anyway:
    N.

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  14. Hey, I'm a brazilian lesbian girl and I have been watching TLW in the last days too.. Because I didn't want to see it before for the same reasons that you. And, indeed, there are lots of "why" to think about the women obligation in wearing bra - or, better, what kinds of essencialization of being a "true woman" is behind all of this... I liked so much this text, mainly because I had not noticed this point on watching the series... :)

    I think it can be very interesting if you make a video with Rose discussing more about this point... It'd be funny and politically engaged! pleeeeeease, do it! "you can do it" :D

    Sorry about my english! haha

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  15. I've just realized that now that I have a lot of free time, I'm not wearing bras and it feels really comfy. But I just don't know why is common on lesbians

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  16. If you love The L Word, you need to check out The Planet podcast. It's a bit old now, I guess, and it's no longer active. But KC and Elka were the first real-life couple I ever fangirled over. You and Rose are the second.

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL64F3EBECB9763109

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  18. Lalalalala rosie the l word is full of stereotypes but de all love it anyway . I guess using a bra is kind of a custom more than anything x me cause i don't have mucho breast but i'm just saying if you want to use it Do it,if you dont just dont do ir. Everybody is happy. Anyway here in Perú people could go crazy if de decide to not use bra.we live in a machista society and it sucks

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  19. Is it wrong I'm so curious about how this braless week went or didn't go? Would love to do it but there's a bit too much to get away with no bra. haha

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